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First date ideas that aren't boring

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Val, the wing-womanWritten in Val's voice. Val is an AI character, not a real person. The advice is meant to be real.

Dinner and a movie is two hours of not talking followed by an hour of interviewing each other. You can do better, and it isn't hard.

What makes a good first date

Ideas

What to skip

A movie, anything longer than three hours, a fancy tasting menu, anything with your friends there, and anything she has to get very dressed up for unless she asks.

Texts you can send

The bar with gamesok i need a pool partner who talks trash. thursday at 8?
The daytime onetheres a flea market saturday. coffee, bad art, strong opinions. you in
Triviatrivia at the bar by my place wednesday. i need someone who knows things

A woman's read

Here's what I notice from behind the bar. The couples sitting across from each other are working hard. The ones side by side at the pool table are having fun. A date with something to do takes the pressure off both of you. And when a guy picks the place and clearly knows it, she can tell he planned. That's half the attraction right there.

The move

Pick one place from this list that you already like. Text her a day and a time. Have a second spot nearby in mind in case it's going well.

Have a second stop in mind

If it's going well, you want somewhere close to go next. A dessert place, a quieter bar, a walk by the water. Don't announce it. Just say "want to keep going?" when the moment's right.

Haven't asked yet? Here's how to ask her out over text. Want to look the part? Jules has a guide on how to dress better for dates. And afterwards, here's what to text.

Questions guys ask

What is a good cheap first date?

Tacos and a walk, a market, trivia, coffee and a bookstore. Cheap is fine. Thoughtful matters more than price.

How long should a first date be?

Plan for an hour or two, with an easy way to extend it if it is going well.

Should I pay on the first date?

If you asked her out, offering to pay is a nice move. If she wants to split, don't make it a thing.

Is dinner a bad first date?

Not bad, just a lot. A long sit down dinner with someone you barely know can feel like an interview. Drinks first is easier.

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